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Will Call of Duty ever be a massive eSports game?

Discussion in 'eSports Discussion' started by Abyss, Aug 11, 2012.

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    Abyss The Chosen One

    By massive i mean viewers/spectators, prize money,etc.

    CAUTION: May contain dribble.

    In my opinion no but i have quite a few reasons, firstly 'pub players' can not relate to the competitive cod scene as there are far to many changes for example no killstreaks,perks,etc so they wouldn't want to play or watch as it will look fairly boring. Starcraft is another eSports game which is probably one the most popular in the eSports industry. Players from all skill ability can pretty much relate to the 'pros' gameplay so their viewing experiences would be better and much more enjoyable. To sum this part up, Starcraft's viewship > Cod's.

    The money in Cod is fairly low if you compare to other eSport titles such as LoL and Starcraft, no teams wants to risk an expensive journey to an event incase of failure or beacause the travelling is not worth the prize IF you win it.

    However this could be because sponsorship is not that great in Cod events but we have seen some fairly large ones recently. Companies may not want to sponsor Cod events because they may get a bad image, prestige and credibility by supporting events. They also don't get as much of a wide audience in the Cod scene compared to others which means the company is not benefiting much from it. So not many companies want to put their time into Cod which means it will not grow as quick.

    Enough of my waffle, this is just my opinion but this is if cod stays on its currant rate... And Cod is kinda in its early eSport days and black ops looks fairly promising...what are your opinions?
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    Asset. Active Member

    no the end
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    Dayle Omen

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    Dann Well-Known Member

    tl;dr

    da fuq, it has viewers and prize money...
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    Abyss The Chosen One

    I think i am pretty safe to say the amount of Starcraft views and money they get poops all over cod. In Korea starcraft is like a national sport... They are like celebrities, some earn 400k a year.
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    nakedninja91 The Battlefield3 Guy.. add me!

    They're considering it for Rio 2016 - mustbebig
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    Delusion > Editor

    Yeah, I think it will. If you think about attendance alone, teams have grown by like 70-80 which is bound to receive some attention from big potential sponsors/investors. You can see from EGL7 that they have got a lot more sponsors than past events, which is always good to see (especially Rijo42 as their hot chocolate is fucking unreal). Also, when you think about when MLG supported CoD - the views were a lot better than they are in the EU for events. In the EU, CoD is the main game (For EGL events anyway - I'm not sure of the popularity of pc games at i series) so I think here, CoD could become big in terms of viewers/prize money etc.
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    MrLeady y0 Active Member

    honestly its what the people make it really, i mean if people get up and go and make an effort etc, then it could do, if people can be bothered and do nothing about it, then it will stay as it is.

    i do agree however that there is far too many changes from pub to comp, and i have had many of debae with pub players about how boring comp is due to all the rule sets and game changes etc, so that kind of speaks for itself.

    to be honest though it is a shame, because when you get 2 good teams going at it, the action can be immense, sometimes boring but i guess that will happen in any game from time to time.
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    ShAnE eat your nan

    for CoD to grow competitively, public rules should be used, unfortunately, the game isnt as enjoyable so eventually we will have to find something inbetween both, as the viewers on stream > people who attend events
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    MrLeady y0 Active Member

    its a shame they started adding all this random shit to it, i mean the first mw i thought was fine in pubs because the air support wasnt so bad but now they put a million different things for you to use and its just rediculous. if they didnt cram so much bullshit wepons and kill streak rewards it wouldnt be half as bad for pub rules, but as it stands, rules need to be changed and turn into a totally different game from whats played in pubs.

    honestly i doubt there will be something that comes out for a long time that will meet half way, non comp players like all the crap way too much unfortunately, and to be fare, if they didnt cater for them, they wouldnt sell half as many copies because people wouldnt be happy being unable to run around with dual shottys and launchers whilst calling in choppers and airstrikes and nukes and god knows what else.
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    Abyss The Chosen One

    I think banning a over powered weapon can be pointless as if everyone uses the same gun it will be fair if you get me? Like if everyone had the exact same class,load outs,etc it would be fair but that will be obviously boring to watch. MLG black ops was fun to watch imo as everyone bummed the Famas, so no one could complain about OP bullshit and took pure gun skill. The amount of Cod4 play time i probably have on PS3 and Xbox on all acounts would be like 75 days... Just shows how much i used to like pub stomping also cod4 competitive was the most fun to play imo.

    Simplicity >
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    Davemau5 @Kaanesimons

    Question: Who knows?
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    MrLeady y0 Active Member

    totally agree mate, i mean i didnt play mw2 that much competitively du to internet problems, but i didnt enjoy it as much as i did on cod4, never played blackops or mw3 competitive though, not had any internet for past couple years at all, keep finding propertys with cheap landlords that wont pay for a line fitting lol.

    but i agree it is sad when so many weapons have to be banned, limiting it to the same handfull of weapons. i miss the cod4 maps aswell tbf, not liked any of the maps on the newers cod games as much as the old cod4 maps.

    who knows one day we might get lucky and theyll strip it all back abit more to the original
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    -Boulty- Member

    I think personally more people should support cod competetively, Some people frown upon competetive. But I think it's a great thing, making new friends etc. I think call of duty is a great game and should be pushed out there to become more popular and overtake games in popularity like LoL and Starcraft. Next couple of years I think call of duty will become a huge eSport game.
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    CtrL Member

    I think it will with the release of BO2. It does seem that with this release they aim to please the competetive community.
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    Carbon Carbon is iNControl

    Arn't we all getting carried away and forgetting CODXP?
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    iNF Well-Known Member

    Lack of sponsor = PC > Console. There are so many manufacturers of different products on the pc, compared to the console, so that's why we are struggling with sponsors on CoD. Why on earth should a computer manufacturer such as Intel sponsor console, they would get no profit from it.
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    Abyss The Chosen One

    What about CODXP? It had alot of money...but that was ONE event, the consistency is alot lower while in Starcraft that is where all the $$$$ is. Earning up to 500k a year, celebrity status,etc.
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    Abyss The Chosen One

    Agreed but PC has alot of peripherals needed, mouse,keyboards and so on.
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    Carbon Carbon is iNControl

    ONE event? Okay, Please read more about it and when they are planned. or perhaps why there isn't one for Bops2, Halo was larger and I'd go as far to say more larger than starcraft. Players recieved multi-million dollar contracts to sign for teams and same with sponsorship deals.
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    Abyss The Chosen One

    Get some evidence. CodXP has only happened once and it is not happening this year. You think Halo is larger than Starcraft? By views? you are wrong, by money? You are wrong. Multi million contracts? Doubt it. The highest paid pro is a Korean who currantly plays for Fnatic which competes in Starcraft earning $500,000.
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    Solace. Well-Known Member

    Firstly about public rules how many of you have told someone who plays public about competitive rules.
    99% of people who i have told prefer to play our rules its not that at all its like of advertising, even egl barely advertise themselves.

    In starcraft pro teams have partnerships with universities to develop people into players.

    that's wrong just saying


    starcraft2 is the main game in the eu

    cod will never be as big because starcraft is a game basically created to be competitive
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    Conspa 'Campy-Conspa'

    To be honest, I don´t think it will ever get as big as some of the PC games sponsor like. Because all you have atm are headsets and controllers. On PC you have alot of different mice, keyboards, headsets, vid cards etc. So that will lead up to more sponsors so more money being involved.

    But if MLG pick up black ops 2 and don´t ban too much (overpowered weapons allowed so all players use the same guns), it is better for viewers too watch imo.
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    Abyss The Chosen One



    "...was later revealed that Moon had signed a three-year contract with the Korean team WeMade FOX for $500,000 which made him the highest paid esports player at the time, a title which was previously held by Korean professional gamer NaDa (who is also a member of WeMadeFox)."
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    Carbon Carbon is iNControl

    Your a clueless idiot then for commenting on anything I have to say without listening.
    idiot.
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